Saturday, February 2, 2013

Elitist - Racist - Sexist

Those are things that I'll be called (and worse) after I ask my question tonight. Understand that in early America, only tax-payers could vote. Since there was no income tax at the time, that pretty much meant property-owning, white males. The idea was that those voting should have a stake in the results of that voting, and that non-property-owners "had nothing to lose" by voting irresponsibly. During those years, we fought a revolution and gained our freedom, drafted and implemented a constitution, showed that power could be peaceably passed from one official to another and (not without a war) finally freed the slaves.

Since that time, we have permitted non-property-owners to vote, blacks and other races to vote and, lastly, gave women the right to vote. NOW, look where we are today and tell me - would we not have been better off leaving the vote the way it was in the beginning? © 2013


JaneofVirginia said...

It's a little known fact that in the Civil War, women were given the right to own and convey property, even without their husbands if they were married. This was done to allow them to move on, or do what they needed to do if their husband died, or if they never heard again what happened to their husbands.
In Virginia, that old law remains in the books. Women have therefore been landowners for a long time. I can see giving voting rights only to landowners. I think I would not give additional voting rights to those who owned multiple properties though.

Michael Silvius said...

a pol tax would work, you pay taxes you get to vote, if you are on any kind of welfare you do not....

Pumice said...

Actually the last group to get the vote were the 18 year olds. That was insanity.

The limitations on who could vote were on the state level. It is not in the constitution. If I am wrong please give me chapter and verse. The issue of property was debated and rejected by the Founding Fathers.

I like the idea of establishing qualifications to vote the problem we run into is that the elites use them to keep out people they don't want to vote for political reasons. Can you picture the list of people that would be kept from the voting booths is the left made up the standards?

Grace and peace.

Gorges Smythe said...

You've hit the nail squarely on the head, Jane. Unfortunately, the die is cast and things won't stop until the have-nots have stolen everything from the haves.

Sadly, that has already been declared illegal, Michael; plus it kept some actual landownwers from voting.

Pumice, I always thought it was hypocritical that a young man may go die for his country at 17 (with parent's permission), but he can't have a beer until he's 21 most places (maybe everywhere now). One number or the other is wrong. As for elites they used the Jim Crow laws to keep most blacks and poor whites from voting, but now, they allow illegal aliens to vote.

I thank you three for having the courage to comment on this matter.

Linda said...

When and where are/were illegal aliens allowed to vote?

Gorges Smythe said...

The last few elections in this country, Linda. However, since it benefits the democrats, it doesn't get investigated.

Crystal Mary said...

I am a woman, I think. And I was legal when I lived in America, but I was still called an alien.. it made me feel like I was from another planet..
All jokes aside, you sound right to me, the world is much more messed up today than back then. Saying illegal aliens can now vote! Well to me that sounds like there are probably MANY illegal votes in the name of someone who perhaps isn't even a real live person.Crooked stuff.

Le Loup said...

I must admit that I have never thought of it in that way. But I think there are too many other aspects to take into account when it comes to polling any subject.
Things have changed, & a lot of younger people changed with it. Now though we have a new breed of youngster coming along, one that is I think more in tune with our needs.
But then again, are those needs ours or theirs? Now I have confused myself! It seemed clear but now I think I am having a senior moment!!!

Gorges Smythe said...

Crystal, I think we made our mistake separating it from property ownership, but it's too late now.

I seem to be getting those more often myself, Keith!

Linda said...

You still did not answer the question. You repeated what you said before, only with different words. Where? When? Who? Proof, please.

Gorges Smythe said...

There IS no proof, Linda, because the powers-that-be refuse to investigate it. Therefore, the only evidence so far is anecdotal. Since no-one will act on the many illegalities already PROVEN under this administration, I doubt seriously if anyone will bother to make the effort to do those investigations on their own. I'm not trying to be short with you, I just don't feel the need to prove the statement. Therefore, you'll just have to accept or dismiss my statement, whichever you feel the most comfortable with. Or, I guess you could choose to do your own research.